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svfl: afpxy jnm, jnm-sQfn aqy
pirvfrk ipCokV bfry kuJ dwso.
jvfb: myrf jnm myry nfnky sLihr PgvfVy hY. asIN cfr BYxF aqy do Brf hF.
myry ipqf jI isMDrI PrtylfeIjLr ivwc sn. jdoN mYN surq sMBflI asIN sfry
isMdrI sF. pihlI qy dUjI jfmq mYN EQy hI pVHI. qIjI, cOQI qy pMjvIN jfmq
mYN afpxy ipMz (myhlI) dy pRfiemrI skUl ivwc kIqI ikAuNik vwzy Bf jI dI
pVHfeI leI iqMn sfl leI sfnUM sfry BYx BrfvF qy bIjI nUM pMjfb afAuxf
ipaf. ies qoN bfad myrI sfrI pVHfeI isMdrI qy rFcI dI hY ijwQoN mYN bI:ey
bI:aYWz kIqI. isMdrI ikAuNik bhuq vwzf kfrKfnf sI ies leI EQy bhuq sfry
sUibaF dy lok sn, KLfs kr ky ibhfrI, mdrfsI qy pMjfbI. qy sB qoN vwD sn
bMgflI. Gr df mfhOl afm ijhf sI pr skUl df mfhOl vwK vwK sUibaF dy bwicaF
qy aiDafpkF krky vwKrf sI. mYnUM gIq gfAux df sLOk sI qy mYN hmysLF pMjfbI
gIq gfAuNdI jo ik pMjfb coN iswK ky jFdI. jdoN asIN hr sfl grmIaF dIaF
CuwtIaF ivwc jF kdI ivafh sLfdI qy pMjfb afAuNdy. mYnUM hr vfr nvyN gIq lY
ky jfx df cfa huMdf.
svfl:qusIN pfqr horF bfry sB qoN pihlF kdoN suixaf jF ivafh qoN pihlF kdoN
ku qoN jfxdy ho?
jvfb: mYN iehnF bfry pihlI vfr AudoN hI suixaf jdoN iehnF dIaF cfry BYxF
mYnUM vfro vfrI dyKx afeIaF qy afpxy vIr bfry dws ky geIaF ik Auh pMjfb
KyqIbfVI XUnIvristI ivwc pRoPYsr hY aqy kivqf ilKdf hY. mYN iehnF dy
pRoPLYsr hox dI gwl nUM qF gMBIrqf nfl ilaf pr kvI hox dI gwl nUM nhIN so
jLfihr hY ik mYN iehnF nUM ivafh qoN pihlF nhIN jfxdI sI.
svfl: quhfzf ivafh pRym ivafh hY jF pirvfr dI mrjLI nfl hoieaf?
jvfb: sfzf ivafh pRym-ivafh nhIN sI. pirvfrF dI mejLI nfl hoieaf.
svfl: ivafh qoN pihlF iewk dUjy nUM imlx dyKx dI Gtnf bfry kuJ jfxkfrI
idE.
jvfb: ivafh qoN pihlF dyKx idKfAux dI Gtnf bhuq rOck hY. qYa hoieaf ik
dyKx idKfAux df kMm Gr nhIN, blik PgvfVy dy bws awzy qy kIqf jfvy. eysy
awzy qy asIN dohF ny iewk dUjy nUM dyiKaf, siq sRI akfl bulfeI. pfqr sfihb
myry nfl gwlbfq vI krnI cfhuMdy sn pr myry mMmI ies leI iblkul rfjLI nhIN
hoey.
svfl: jdoN quhfnuM pqf lwgf ik quhfzy pqI eny vwzy sLfier hn qF quhfnUM
ikvyN lwgf?
jvfb: ivafh qoN keI mhIinaF qwk mYnUM ieh nhIN pqf lwigaf ik ieh bhuq vwzy
kvI hn ikAuNik iehnF dI pihlI ikqfb vI myry afAux qoN iewk sfl bfad CpI.
pr hux mYN ies aihsfs nUM mfxdI hF aqy PLKLr krdI hF.
svfl: kI quhfnUM afp vI ilKx df jF sLfierI df sLONk hY?
jvfb: jI nhIN, mYnUM ilKx df sLOk qF nhIN pr sLfierI suxn aqy pVHn df sLOk
hY. mYN socdI hF ik ilKxf rwb dI dfq hY, prmfqmf dI rihmq hY.
svfl: mYN suixaf hY ik qusIN afp vI bhuq vDIaf gf lYNdy ho. kdI pfqr horF
nfl iksy pRogrfm qy gfieaf hovy?
jvfb: ijvyN mYN pihlF hI dws afeI hF ik gfAux df sLOk mYnUM bcpn qoN hI
sI, pfqr sfihb nfl mYN AudoN hI jFdI hF jdoN mYnUM bulfieaf jFdf hY qy jy
pRbMDkF nUM sUh lwg geI hovy qF mYnuM gfAuxf vI pYNdf hY.
sfvl: pfqr horF dI ikhVI gwl sB qoN vwD psMd hY?
jvfb: pfqr sfihb dI iewk gwl mYnUM bhuq psMd hY. Auh ieh ik iksy gwloN jy
mYN nrfjL hovF qF Auh bhuq jldI mYnUM mnf lYNdy hn. bhuq icr Auh ruwsy
nhIN rih skdy.
svfl: ikhVI gwl sB qoN vwD nfpsMd hY?
jvfb: ieh afpxIaF cIjLF QF isr nhIN rwKdy qy jdoN nhIN imldIaF EdoN bhuq
iKJdy hn. iehnF dI ieh gwl mYnUM iblkul psMd nhIN.
svfl: iewk bfp vflI ijLMmyvrrI pUrI qrHF inBfeI hY?
jvfb: pUrI qrHF. ieh bwicaF nUM bhuq ipafr krdy hn. qy AuhnF nUM smJfAux
df ZMg vI iehnF df afpxf hI hY.ieh ijLafdf AudysL nhIN idMdy, ieh kihMdy
hn, myrf ipafr hI iehnF leI AupdysL hY.
svfl: kI bwicaF df vI sLfierI jF sMgIq vwl Jukfa hY?
jvfb: dohF nUM sMgIq df bhuq sLOk hY. vwzf bytf aMkur kdI kdI pfpf dI
sLfierI guxguxfAuNdf hY. Cotf mnrfj skUl vyly kwc df glfs aqy bc ky moV
qoN gfAuNdf sI. hux Auh vDyry sUPLI klfm gfAuNdf hY jF pfpf dI gLjLl ies
qrHF hY- ies qrHF hY ijs qrHF idn rfq ivclf Plfislf.
svfl: pirvfrk jIvn ivwc afeI koeI vwzI musLkl jF sMkt ijs df sfhmxf krnf
ipaf hvy?
jvfb:jdoN ieh 1997 ivwc bImfr hey.
svfl: ivafhuqf ijLMdgI df sB qoN vwD KusLI dyx vflf pl.
jvfb: sB qoN KusLI vflf pl jdoN BfrqI BfsLf pirsLd df purskfr lYx ieh
sfnUM nfl lY ky gey qy asIN bwicaF smyq rfsLtrpqI Bvn ivwc rfsLtrpqI afr
ky nrfiexn dy bhuq kol sF.
svfl: sLfierF kflkfrF AuWqy bIbIaF aksr bhuq imhrbfn rihMdIaF hn. ies df
koeI anuBv jF prysLnI?
jvfb: ieh quhfzf BulyKf hY. mYN smJdI hF vwzy klfkfrF jF lyKkF qy bIbIaF
imhrbfn nhIN hMdIaF, AuhnF dI klf dIaF pRsLMsk huMdIaF hn. qusIN vI bhuq
vwzy khfxIkfr ho, quhfnUM vI qjrbf hoxf.
svfl: pfqr jI kihMdy hn myrI sB qoN vwzI rfjLdfn hY myrI kivqf aqy myrI
pqnI ny vI myrf koeI rfjL jfxnf hovy Auh myrI kivqf hI pVHdI hY. koeI
ajyhf rfjL dwsogy ijhVf kivqf pVH ky pqf lwgf hovy?
jvfb: kvIaF df ierh suBf huMdf hY ik Auh afpxf duwK iksy nfl sFJf nhIN
krdy ikAuNik AuhnF kol duwK GtfAux df mfiDam hY kivqf. rfjLdfn qF Auh
huMdf hY ijhVf rfjL nUM rfjL rwKy. jy kivqf kvI dy rfjL nUM rfjL nhIN
rwKygI qF Auh kfhdI rfjLdfn hY.
svfkl:koeI hsrq ik jy eynf kuJ imlx dy nfl nfl afh kuJ vI iml igaf huMdf?
jvfb:prmqfmf ny sfnUM eynf kuJ idwqf hY iehdy leI asIN Aus dy sLukrgujLfr
hF.
svfl: kI pfqr horI GrylU kMmF ivwc pUrf hwQ vtfAuNdy hn?
jvfb: iehnF dy eyny ruJyyvyN hn ik GrylU kMmF ivwc hwQ vtfAuxf sMBv nhIN
qy myrI vI pUrI koisLsL huMdI hY ik iehnF nUM ilKx pVHx leI mfhOl dy skF.
hF jy mYN kdI koeI kMm khF qF nFh nhIN krdy.
svfl: AuhnF dI ilKq ivwc qusIN AuhnF dI kI-kI mdd krdy ho? AuhnF dI ilKq
dy pihly pfTk jF sroqy ho? kdI koeI suJfa vI dyNdy ho?
jvfb: mYN ilKx df smF aqy mfhOl dyx dI pUrI koisLsL krdI hF. kdI kdI ieh
mYnUM koeI rcnf suxf ky Aus df pRiqkrm jfnxf cfhuMdy huMdy hn. pr hmysLF
nhIN.
svfl: Kfx pIx vflI ikhVI cIjL, dfl sbjLI psMd krdy hn?
jvfb: myQy vflI mwkI dI rotI qy mUlIaF vfly prONTy.
svfl: quhfzy bxfey Kfxy jF hor kIqy kMmF dI ieh bxdI pRsLMdf krdy hn?
jvfb: pRsMLsf krn ivwc qF ieh bVy mfhr hn aqy nuks kwZx ivwc vI.
svfl: koeI hor gwl jo qusIN afp dwsxI cfhuMdy hovo?
jvfb: qusIN svflF ivwc koeI ksr hI nhIN CwzI.
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