gfiekI dy Kyqr ivwc awj anykF
gfiek afpxI pihcfx bxfAux leI sMGrsL kr rhy hn. awj pMjfbI gfiekI dy Kyqr
ivwc mukfblf ieMnf vwD igaf hY ik hr gfiek ies dOV ivwc dUijaF nfloN awgy
inklx ivwc kfhlf hY. ies kfhl ivwc Auh sfho sfh hoey Grk rhy hn qy sMgIq
bhuq hwd qwk sLor bxdf jf irhf hY. iehnF ivwc ajkwl dy bhuqy aKOqI gfiekF
nUM
sur df koeI igafn
nhIN hY. iehnF ny pMjfbI gIqF aqy gfiekI df ichrf mohrf ivgfV ky rwK idwqf
hY. asLlIl vIzIAu aqy luwcy gIqF df shfrf lY ky afpxy ajIbo grIb hfsohIxy
pihrfvy nfl keI gfiek kuJ smyN leI qF lokF ivwc crcf df ivsLf bxdy hn pr
Auh gfiek ieh nhIN jfxdy ik sMgIq klf ivwc inpuMn hox leI krVI imhnq, lgn,
irafjL qy keI qrHF dIaF sMgIqk brIkIaF nUM smJxf pYNdf hY. pMjfbI ivwc bhuq
Gwt gfiek ieho ijhy hn ijnHF nUM sur qy sMgIq dIaF brIkIaF df pqf hY qy
AuhnF ny sMgIq nUM afpxI ijLMdgI df mksd bxf ky lgfqfr imhnq aqy sMGrsL kIqf
hY.
ieho ijhy iewk hoxhfr mMJy hoey klfkfr nUM mYN vI jfxdf hF ijsny bkfiedf
sMgIq dI iswiKaf lY ky gfAuxf sLurU kIqf. ieh klfkfr jdoN gfAuNdf hY qF
iesdI afvfjL ivclI sur qy imTfs sroiqaF nUM mMqr mugD kr idMdI hY. mYN gwl kr
irhf hF pMjfbI dy AuBrdy hoey nvyN gfiek rfjysL rfjU dI. rfjU nUM mYN kflj
ivwc pVHn smyN qoN jfxdf hF.BfvyN ik sfzIaF keI afdqF iek dUjy nfl myl
nhIN sI KFdIaF pr iek aYsI cIjL sI ijs krky sfzI dosqI sI Auh sI sMgIq .
sMgIq Aus dI rg rg ivc vwisaf sI. Aus smyN Auh sfry kflj df hIro sI.
lfielpur Kflsf kfilj jlMDr ivwc pVHidaF ivhly smyN ivwc rfjU kflj dI kMtIn
ivwc imwqrF dI ZfxI ivwc bih ky jdoN bolIaF pfAuNdf qF AusdI afvfjL sfnUM
mwlo mwlI iKwc ky Ausdy kol lY jFdI. AusdI afvfjL ivwc ieMnI mDurqf qy
sroqy nUM kIl lYx vflf nsLf huMdf ik Aus koloN AuWT ky jfx nUM jI nf krdf qy mn
ieho cfhuMdf ik bws Auh gfeI jfvy qy asIN AusnUM suxI jfeIey.
lfielpur Kflsf kflj jlMDr ivwc pVHidaF Ausny gurU nfnk dyv XUnIvristI dy
XUQ PYstIvl ivwc lgfqfr ihwsf ilaf qy iPr lgfqfr 1992 qoN Auh keI sfl
XUnIvristI df jyqU gfiek bxdf irhf. Ausny sRI suBfsL duwgl jI nUM afpxf gurU
Dfiraf qy sMgIq dI zUMGI smJ pRfpq kIqI. izgrI lYx qoN bfad rfjU acfnk
gfieb ho igaf. iPr 1999 jdoN mYN pihlI vfrI ‘amrIkf’ igaf qF pqf lwgf ik
rfjU vI rojLI rotI dy cwkr ivwc 1997 ivwc kYlyPornIaf dy KLUbsUrq sLihr
sYnhojLy (amrIkf) ivwc jf vwisaf sI. AuWQy Ausny rojLI rotI leI hwz BMnvIN
imhnq kIqI. afpxy dysL qoN iekdm iksy prfeI DrqI `qy jf ky sQfpq hoxf qy
afpxy ipwCy nfloN tuwtxf Aus leI iewk krfrf Jtkf sI. AusnUM keI qrHF dIaF
smwisafvF df sfhmxf krnf ipaf. rfjU leI sB qoN vwzf duKFq EdoN vfpiraf
jdoN ipCy Bfrq ivc Aus dy
mfqf jI suvrgvfs ho igaf qy pwkf nf hox krky Auh
ieOzIaf nf jf sikaf. pr rfjU ny ihMmq nf hfrI qy Auh zitaf irhf. sMgIq df
sLONk Ausny afpxy awq dy ruJyvyN Bry jIvn ivwc vI afpxI ihwk nfl GuwtI
rwiKaf. hr rojL jdoN Auh Qwk tuwt ky kMm qoN afAuNdf qF hfrmonIam PVH ky
gfAuxf sLurU krdf. ijs nfl AusnUM ÉusLI imldI qy idn Br dI Qkfvt Ausdy ijsm
ivwcoN inkl jFdI qy rUh iKV jFdI. sMgIq rfjysL rfjU dI rg rg ivwc ricaf
hoieaf hY, AusdI rUh df atuwt ihwsf hY. 1997 ivwc rfjysL rfjU ny bVI imhnq
qy irafjL nfl iewk kYist irkfrz krvfeI ijsdf nF sI ‘mfÌ krI Xfrf`. ies typ
df hr gIq ieMnf KUbsUrq qy idl tuMbvF sI ik
vfr-vfr AusdI afvfjL suxn nUM jI
krdf sI. BfvyN bdiksmqI nfl ieh kYist Bfrq ivwc irlIjL nf ho skI pr
amrIkf,kYnyzf ivwc iesnUM cMgf huMgfrf imilaf. AusqoN bfd rfjU sMgIq nfl
lgfqfr juiVaf irhf qy hor cMgf krn dI Tfx leI.
iPr nO sfl dy lMby arsy qoN bfad 2006 ivc rfjysL rfjU ny cMgy pfrKU sMgIq
pRymIaF leI iewk kYist iqafr kIqI. AusdI ies kYist df nF sI ‘dunIaF`.
iesdf sMgIq pMjfbI dy pRiswD gfiek mnmohx vfirs dy Brf sMgqfr ny idqf sI.
gIq dybI mÉsUspurI, mlkIq mIq aqy suKbIr suK dy ilKy hoey sn. iehnF gIqF
nUM
rfjysL rfjU ny bVf KuwB ky qy iBwj ky gfieaY. ies typ dIaF do bhuq hI
ÉUbsUrq vIzIAu iÌlmF vI bxfeIaF geIaF. Ausdy pRsMsLkF n yies kYist nMU bhuq
psMd kIqf . Auh sroiqaF qoN aijhy AuqsLfhI huMgfry leI afsvMd hY, ijs nfl
Auh awgy qoN hor cMgf gfAux dI pRyrnf imly. hux Auh afpxI afAux vflI nvIN
typ dI iqafrI ivc rwuJf hoieaf hY qy CyqI hI ies sfl dy aKIr qy iek vDIaf
suQrI Auc-pfey dI aYlbm lY ky af irhf hY. afpxy gIqF ivwc Auh cfhuMdf hY
ik iesLk musLk qy muhwbq dIaF gwlF hI nf hox sgoN lokF dIaF smwisafvF qy
AuhnF dy suwK duwK dI gwl vI kry. Auh cfhuMdf hY ik Ausdy gIq jMmdy hI nf
mr jfx sgoN Ausdy gfey hoey bol lokF dy bol bx jfx. pMjfb dy ies suwcy
hIry gfiek dI kfmXfbI leI sfzI idlI duaf hY.
ipCy idnIN rfjysL rfjU iksy sLoa dy islisly ivc kYnyzf afieaf. myrI Aus
nfl kIqI mulfkfq dy kuJ aMsL pfTkF leI pysL kr irhf hF.
?- sB qoN pihlF afpxy pirvfrk ipCokV bfry cfnxf pfE. mF bfp kOx aqy muwZlI
ivwidaf aqy AuWc ivwidaf bfry cfnxf pfE.
*jlMDr ijLlHy ivwc myrf cotf ijhf ipMz hY, ibafs ipMz. mMYN EQoN df hI
jMmpl hF. myry mfqf jI sv: igafn kur aqy ipqf jI svrgI sRI pRym pfl jI.
muwZlI ivwidaf mYN ibafs ipMz qoN hI pRfpq kIqI aqy AuWc ivwidaf mYN
lfielpur Kflsf kflj jlMDr qoN pRfpq kIqI.
?-gfAux dI cytk kdoN lwgI?
* gwl ies qrHF hY jI gfAux df sLONk mYnUM skUl pVHdy smyN hoieaf. skUl
ivwc jd vI koeI pRogrfm huMdf qF mYN gfAux ivwc sB qoN mohrI huMdf. myrI
ies klf nUM myry dosqF aqy aiDafpkF vwloN slfihaf igaf. iPr myrI ies rucI
nUM iDafn ivwc rwK ky myry cfcf jI sLRI kyvl ikRsLn jI ny mYnUM sMgIq dy
Kyqr ivwc syD idwqI. iPr mYN bfkfiedf sLRI duwgl sfhb nUM afpxf gurU
Dfiraf aqy sMgIq iswiKaf.
?-hux qwk sMgIq dy Kyqr ivwc afpxIaF kIqIaF pRfpqIaF bfry dwso?
*lfielpur Kflsf kflj pVHidaF iewQy mYnUM pRo: ieMdrjIq qy pRo: virafm isMG
sMDU sfhb hurF vwloN cMgI pRyrnf qy hONslf aPLjLfeI imlI. iPr mYN lgfqfr
cfr sfl guru nfnk dyv XunIvristI ivc huMdy XUQ PYstIvl ivwc pihlI pujLIsLn
hfsl kIqI. hor mYN idwlI, jYpur, pitaflf ivwc hoey aMqr XUnIvristI
mukfbilaF ivwc kRmvfr pihlf , dUjf sQfn pRfpq kIqf. dUsrf, amrIkf ivwc
irlIjL hoeI myrI kYst “mfPL krIN Xfrf” nUM amrIkf,kYnyzf aqy ieMglYNz ivwc
cMgf BrvF huMgfrf imilaf. iPr sMn 2006 ivwc irlIjL hoeI myrI pOp aYlbm
‘dunIaF’ nUM myry ipafr krn vfly sroiqaF ny hr pfsy bhuq ipafr idwqf qy
ies kYst nUM kfPLI sPLlqf bKLsLI. hux ies sfl 2007 dy aKIr ivwc mYN afpxy
sroiqaF leI nvIN kYst lY ky af irhf hF.
?-afpxI afAux vflI nvIN kYst bfry kuJ dwso?
*iPlhfl mYN eynf hI dws skdf hF ik mYN pUrI lgn aqy imhnq nfl ies kYst dI
iqafrI ivwc ruwJf hF. ies ivwc awT gIq hn jo ik suKvIr suwK, mnjIq mIq,
dybI mKLsUspurI dy ilKy hoey hn. ies kYst df sMgIq mYN do-iqMn vwKry
imAUijLk zfierYktrF qoN iqafr krvf irhf hF qF jo hryk gIq ivwc kuJ vwKrI
iksm df rMg hovy. bfkI mYnUM ies kYst qoN kfPLI AumIdF hn ik ieh kYst myry
sroiqaF nUM jLrUr psMd afvygI.
?- kI qusIN socdy ho ik iewk lok gfiek amrIkf ivwc rih ky vI pMjfbI
swiBafcfr nfl juiVaf rih skdf hY?
*hF, quhfzI gwl kuJ hwd qwk TIk hY. vYsy sfzI pMjfbI gfiekI df Durf hI
pMjfb hY. iewQy amrIkf ivwc bYT ky ijMnf icr mrjLI gfeI jfvo, aslI pihcfx
klfkfr dI pMjfb jf ky AuWQoN dy lokF ivwc ivcr ky AunHF ivwc afpxIaF jVHF
PYlf ky huMdI hY. so, ies leI mYN ipCly sfl kfPLI mhIny pMjfb jf ky afieaf
hF. ijwQy mYN jgHf-jgHf ipMzF ivwc pRogrfm kIqy EQy mYnUM lokF df eynf
ipafr imilaf ijMnf mYN soicaf vI nhIN sI. hux mYN 2007 ivwc pwky qOr qy
pMjfb ivwc zyry lf ley hn qy bfkI rhI gwl amrIkf dI, hux iewQy vI pirvfr
hY qy EQy vI. ieh mulk vI hux afpxf hI lgdf hY. kdI-kdI iewQy vI afvFgf
sfl ivwc do-iqMn mhIinaF leI.
?- awj kwlH hr iewk nOjvfn gfiek bxI iPrdY, Aus bfry kI kihxf cfhogy?
*hF, quhfzI ieh gwl iblkul TIk hY. kuJ gfiek pYsy dy jLor nfl kYst qF krvf
lYNdy hn, pr Auh gfiekI aqy swiBafcfr qoN bhuq dUr huMdy hn. pr jy koeI sB
qoN pihlF ies Kyqr ivwc afAuxf cfhuMdf hY qF Aus ivwc sB qoN pihlF sMgIq
pRqI iKWc aqy ipafr hoxf cfhIdf hY iPr sMgIq dI bfkfiedf qflIm lY ky hI
ies pfsy afAuxf cfhIdf hY qF ik pMjfbI imAUijLk dI bykdrI nf hovy.
?-qusIN sMgIq dy Kyqr ivwc sB qoN ijLafdf iks qoN pRBfivq ho?
*jI mYN pfiksqfn dy pRiswD kwvfl aqy gfiek nusrq Plqih alI KLfn aqy gLulfm
alI , srdUl iskMdr aqy keI hor surIlf gfAux vfly mYnUM cMgy lgdy hn.
?-rfjU jI aKIr ivwc kuJ kihxf cfhogy?
* bws eynf hI ik lok cMgy sMgIq nUM suxn aqy pfierysI df bfeIkft krn. bfkI
myry sroiqaF df bhuq DMnvfd ijnHF ny myrI kYst sPLlqf nUM jLbrdsq huMgfrf
idwqf. nvIN kYst lY ky jld hfjLr hovFgf. siq sRLI akfl.
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